Where did the 1/5/09 article come from?

I am anonymous 3:52 pm, but the anonymous posts after that (about Kerzner) were not mine. I'm frustrated with people who don't check their facts, But I would never be mean about it.

The papers only report what they are told & don't check facts for information that isn't accustory in nature (at least, that's how a reporter explained it to me). The information about TCAM is incorrect. They are an LLC and don't have to publish the principals (owners) on the corporation paperwork. So no one can say for sure who is part of TCAM.

Unless you find a different source. Like SEC filings. Those are usually pretty accurate.

I didn't write the articles about Sol Kerzner that I posted, real writers did and your comments about me drinking the Kool-aid is off base.

Too much sugar!

I have NO stake in this and nothing to gain if it comes or does not. I thought I was conversing with an adult but I was wrong and I'm done with your nonsense!

For years, Strather and his investors bankrolled the tribe's quest for federal recognition from the U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs, upping the ante to $40,000 a month, and later $100,000, according to court documents.
But the process, officially ongoing since the 1970s, still took a lot longer than anticipated. In December 2006, about 10 months after the tribe received a preliminary thumbs up on its federal recognition application, the man from Detroit officially handed over the vast majority of his stake in a proposed casino to a company called Trading Cove, headed up by South African casino developers Sol Kerzner and Len Wolman.

From the Providence Business News on June 11, 2007

The Trading Cove at Mashpee partnership – led by Twin Rivers owners Len Wolman, head of resort developer and operator the Waterford Group LLC and managing partner of Trading Cove Associates, the company that developed Mohegan Sun, and Sol Kerzner, chairman and CEO of Kerzner International Ltd. (NYSE: KZL), which has a 50-percent stake in both Trading Cove Associates and the Atlantis, a resort in the Bahamas.

# 2 – Carcieri wasn't the biggest problem for the tribe's dream to build a casino. The problem is with IGRA, and the tribe can't conform to that law in order to build a casino on an initial reservation.

# 3 – The governor has to approve for the land to be taken into federal trust, and he has already filed a letter of objection with the SOI. That alone will put a stop to the tribe's casino.

# 4 – There are other court cases pending in the US which will have an effect on the land into trust process. Some of which are awaiting decisions now. The Carcieri decision may be the tip of the iceburg.

Back to the 2nd half of the Pat's.

We can be sure that the Middleboro BOS certainly won't ask any questions on there own.

This project has become a noose around our neck. What business would want to move here with this immense black cloud of uncertainty hanging over Middleboro?

We need to put this embarrassing chapter in our history behind us, once and for all.

As for something is going to be "built there with or with out the tribe…" who is going to build it, Herb Strather? That land was given to the town in lieu of unpaid taxes, if that land had any developmental value I seriously doubt the Strair family would have let that occur.
That scenario also entails this whole process starting over again from scratch and I think our townspeople are a lot less likely to look favorably at another "deal". Not to mention the environmental hurdles any type of commercial project would have to clear.

As Bumpkin says "This turkey is done!"

Check out the profile of the investors and their past projects, there may be a link.

http://www.prosperity-international.com/pastprojects.html

If you're driving down the highway and have to pee really really bad, do you pass the first rest stop or keep driving to one further down the road?

Same with gamblers, why pass one casino to get to one further down the road?

Among the ones you listed, they are subject to all rules, regulations, fees, and oversight as any other business.

As a for instance, when we wrote the IGA, somebody missed the business about comping – a $2M mistake. If the state adds a new tax or other fee – we just get it. Not so(generally) with a tribal casino. Some tribal casinos have withheld agreed payments – leaving communities with little recourse.

Without having to deal with all that complexity and ambiguity of soverign status, the community, I believe, will be in a better position to protect itself.

I also can't see the investors throwing good money after bad.

Also, the zoning of the land would have to be changed by a 2/3 vote of town meeting. Then there's MEPA to get past. The bills currently being discussed do not include a casino in Plymouth County.

But you never know. I'd certainly prefer a commercial over the whole LIT hassle. I'd prefer neither but of the two, commercial would get my vote.

Reel Wamps are actual tribe members that have seen everything.